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Seattle - Press Conference Success - Pics
by Trauma_Hound inwe had a total of 5 people show up, including myself, bruce baker presented the lamb, and left a press packet on the door, with copys of the new york times articles.
i got some pictures and video, and we had a reporter for the seattle times, and komo tv 4 show up, they both talked with us for almost an hour.
it was great to have a couple of people share they're personal experiences about being molested with the reporters.
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2004 Wt Pure Hate International Conventions
by Satanus ini think it is not very likely that the world situation will develop to a state where the wt would give the command for jw's to kill apostates.
my goal is not to fan fear among xjw's, but to highlight the hate on which the wt's message is based.
the world is becoming a better place every day.. if god is love, yet hates, one could pose the question, is god pure?
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nancee park
Here's an interesting flyer. Let us simply lovingly expose the real truth that sets free:
DEAR JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND PUBLIC: There are many nice Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs) but the top Governing Body of the Watchtower Society (WTS) leaders, and most local WTS elders cover up child molestation, let JW pedophiles go door-to-door, get at victims at get-togethers or Bible Studies,(http://www.silentlambs.org or toll-free 1 877-WT-ABUSE), don't tell rank-and-file about being a Non-Governmental Organization in the UN 1991-2001 though preaching against the U.N., etc. This shows a handcuffed UK pedophile elder:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_2123000/2123546.stm
And WTS leaks state that over 23,000 JW pedophiles are on file at WTS Bethel headquarters in Brooklyn, New York (USA), most unrevealed to police despite Romans 13:1. That at least one pedophile was on the Governing Body of the WTS in the 1980s if not now also is documented: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5466&site=3 Convicted Ministerial Servant/Elder pedophiles include Gregory Blackstone at Hollis, New Hampshire; Larry Baker at Augusta, Maine; Tim Gardner at Richmond, Missouri; Manual Beliz at Othello, WA;
others in France, Norway, Australia etcWTS Awake and Watchtower magazines and elders say God opposes the UN but, until exposed, in 1991-2001 the WTS was secretly a formal UN associate not just to use the UN's library as proved if you read the Nov 22, 1998 Awake magazine and use Search at the top at jehovahs-witness.org with "UN" or "U.N." Besides, the UN does not even require a group to become an official associate group to get a card to use its library! After this was on the internet the official U.N. ties
were cut but not all unofficial ties: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=34436&site=3Christ said families would be split by those doing right and those doing wrong but WTS has formal Judicial Committees destroying families via numerous formal renderings of disfellowshipment (severe shunning). 1 Cor 6:1 only says judge "trivial" things as in business, James 2:4-13 calls judging harmful, and Paul says the "majority" (2 Cor 2:6) followed his advice to shun a wrongdoer, meaning a Minority chose not to and yet he nowhere condemns them.
Acts 15:20 says abstain from blood but 1 Sam 14:32-5 says Saul's army ate unBLED meat to not starve and no verses show God not forgiving them. Christ says God also forgave David's eating temple holy bread and that God wants Mercy Not Sacrifice. (Mt 12) The May 22, 1994 Awake tells of 26 JW kids who died without transfusions, and by common sense in massive bleeding as in car wrecks blood expanders won't save lives http://www.ajwrb.org. About 3 JWs die daily
earthwide from the unscriptural policy! (Blood On The Altar by David Reed) Yet most normal identical twins transfuse whole blood to each other through a shared placenta and childrens' whole blood is sometimes found in mothers years after birth.WTS says Christ was likely born about Oct 2, so why ignore counting back 9 months for normal conception or genetic-level birth means he was born in late December? Why insist Christmas is from the pagan Saturnalia when John 10:22-3 says Christ also celebrated the Festival of Dedication or Lights, i.e. Hannukah, which first began Dec 25 but has varied since because lunar-based? Job 1:3, 3:1-3 show Job's kids celebrated birthdays if you read all 3 verses to see day of birth is meant. At Luke 2 angels themselves celebrated Christ's birth. Santa is from Saint Nicholas, an actual red-robed Christian gift-giving elder of the Middle Ages, not a wizard or pagan god. The word Easter may as easily be from the Anglo-Saxon word eastern (Christianity came from East of England) as from the goddess Eastre, the eggs as likely from the Jewish passover egg as from paganry, common sense saying early Christians more likely using eggs and rabbits to symbolize the hope for new life by resurrection than as vesiges of pagan fertility or sex rites!
Halloween came from All Hallows (Holy Ones/Saints) Evening when parents had children dress as saints to encourage them to be good, the normally harmless pranks coming from Ireland where maybe or maybe not taken from pagans even as wedding rings, names of days, months, some Christian names in the Bible like Apollos and Jason also came from pagans. Why does the WTS call compromises holidays that attacked and replaced paganisms especially since Colossians 2:16 says let none judge you about a holiday or Sabbaths? WTS calls a cross a repugnant murder weapon but Paul said boast in it as a symbol of resurrection
over death. (Ga 6:14, 1Cor 1:17-18) They say it was a stake but human remains and inscriptions show archaeologists the stauros was a cross not stake, Dr F Zugibe's research shows suffocation would be in minutes if on a stake but in hours if on outstretched cross per Lu 23:44 and Mat 27:45-6, and the word stauros can mean not just stake but cross.Although almost only the United Pentecostals teach that Jesus is God Almighty (Jehovah) Himself, WTS says the Trinity is believing Father, Son, Spirit are one "identical" person and falsely say most all Protestant and Catholic churches teach that, even though the fact is that most all other Protestant and Catholic groups accept the trinity idea as being three totally different entities or persons forming one "Godship" (Ro 1:20), Son and Spirit sharing inherited age, power, knowledge from God just as an acorn may be only one day old but also have its genes inheriting its ancestral oak tree's age, capacity and information!
Members are told report on each other although the Bible condemns busy-bodying. Nor are regular JWs allowed to read Judicial Committee "sin files" on themselves, many not knowing they exist often with misinformation and kept at Brooklyn's Bethel headquarters even if destroyed locally after seven years. Page 232 in the Insight book shows a picture of the Pay Attention To Yourselves And All The Flock book that elders have but do not allow non-elders to read. Page 302 in the Daniel book and pages 88 and 651 in the Proclaimers book show photos of the Knights Templar swords and the cross-with-crown-and-wreath used by Masons who sometimes use "Theocratic Warfare" tactics to change members' personalities and fight real/imagined opposers ((AID Book, Insight book under "Lies"; Watchtower June 1, 1960, p 352) on early WTS literature. Not surprisingly with the pedophile and other scandals, many good JWs have also complained of visual and electronic spying and harassment, including physically! Some old WT books also have the winged sun god Ra on front covers - never a Christian symbol.
Many Jehovah's Witnesses staying JWs are cutting time and money given the WTS which is declared "apostate" by silentlambs.org for endangering children, the secret U.N. liason etc. Many exJWs meet for fun (http://exjw.meetup.com/), get a newsletter from a fellowship united by love which is greater than forced same beliefs (Col 3:14, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jahchristian/), join a church etc. Beware that in the wake of the pedophile scandals, failed end-time prophecies etc, most former JWs posting at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36020&site=3 believe fanatics in the WTS could possibly do something of an "Armageddon" style mentality. This was written out of love for JW families and friends and the public's kids - yours too! Please help silentlambs.org (1 877-WT-ABUSE) battle for the kids (and adults) by making and distributing more copies of this today!
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Dubs showed up at Dallas press conference
by Jesika inok, well we had 7people total to support the silent lambs.
it was me,valis, my roommate, country girl, and 3others from oklahoma.. we had 2 reports show.
one was a talk radio station, and another was from a tv station---no camera though.. the reporter from channel 8 is wanting us to do a documentary type thing.
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nancee park
It was in Newsweek. I don't know if it was in Time.
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Dubs showed up at Dallas press conference
by Jesika inok, well we had 7people total to support the silent lambs.
it was me,valis, my roommate, country girl, and 3others from oklahoma.. we had 2 reports show.
one was a talk radio station, and another was from a tv station---no camera though.. the reporter from channel 8 is wanting us to do a documentary type thing.
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nancee park
Here's a more comprehensive flyer:
DEAR JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND PUBLIC: There are many nice Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs) but the top Governing Body of the Watchtower Society (WTS) leaders, and most local WTS elders cover up child molestation, let JW pedophiles go door-to-door, get at victims at get-togethers or Bible Studies (http://www.silentlambs.org or toll-free 1 877-WT-ABUSE), don't tell rank-and-file about being a Non-Governmental Organization in the UN 1991-2001 though preaching against the U.N., etc. About the child molesting, see, this shows a handcuffed UK pedophile elder:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_2123000/2123546.stm
And WTS leaks state that over 23,000 JW pedophiles are on file at WTS Bethel headquarters in Brooklyn, New York (USA), most unrevealed to police despite Romans 13:1. That at least one pedophile was on the Governing Body of the WTS in the 1980s if not now also is documented: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5466&site=3 Convicted Ministerial Servant/Elder pedophiles include Gregory Blackstone at Hollis, New Hampshire; Larry Baker at Augusta, Maine; Tim Gardner at Richmond, Missouri; Manual Beliz at Othello, WA;
others in France, Norway, Australia etcWTS Awake and Watchtower magazines and elders say God opposes the UN but, until exposed, in 1991-2001 the WTS was secretly a formal UN associate not just to use the UN's library as proved if you read the Nov 22, 1998 Awake magazine and use Search at the top at jehovahs-witness.org with "UN" or "U.N." Besides, the UN does not even require a group to become an official associate group to get a card to use its library! After this was on the internet the official U.N. ties
were cut but not all unofficial ties: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=34436&site=3Christ said families would be split by those doing right and those doing wrong but WTS has formal Judicial Committees destroying families via numerous formal renderings of disfellowshipment (severe shunning). 1 Cor 6:1 only says judge "trivial" things as in business, James 2:4-13 calls judging harmful, and Paul says the "majority" (2 Cor 2:6) followed his advice to shun a wrongdoer, meaning a Minority chose not to and yet he nowhere condemns them.
Acts 15:20 says abstain from blood but 1 Sam 14:32-5 says Saul's army ate unBLED meat to not starve and no verses show God not forgiving them. Christ says God also forgave David's eating temple holy bread and that God wants Mercy Not Sacrifice. (Mt 12) The May 22, 1994 Awake tells of 26 JW kids who died without transfusions, and by common sense in massive bleeding as in car wrecks blood expanders won't save lives http://www.ajwrb.org. About 3 JWs die daily
earthwide from the unscriptural policy! (Blood On The Altar by David Reed) Yet most normal identical twins transfuse whole blood to each other through a shared placenta and childrens' whole blood is sometimes found in mothers years after birth.WTS says Christ was likely born about Oct 2, so why ignore counting back 9 months for normal conception or genetic-level birth means he was born in late December? Why insist Christmas is from the pagan Saturnalia when John 10:22-3 says Christ also celebrated the Festival of Dedication or Lights, i.e. Hannukah, which first began Dec 25 but has varied since because lunar-based? Job 1:3, 3:1-3 show Job's kids celebrated birthdays if you read all 3 verses to see day of birth is meant. At Luke 2 angels themselves celebrated Christ's birth. Santa is from Saint Nicholas, an actual red-robed Christian gift-giving elder of the Middle Ages, not a wizard or pagan god. The word Easter may as easily be from the Anglo-Saxon word eastern (Christianity came from East of England) as from the goddess Eastre, the eggs as likely from the Jewish passover egg as from paganry, common sense saying early Christians more likely using eggs and rabbits to symbolize the hope for new life by resurrection than as vesiges of pagan fertility or sex rites!
Halloween came from All Hallows (Holy Ones/Saints) Evening when parents had children dress as saints to encourage them to be good, the normally harmless pranks coming from Ireland where maybe or maybe not taken from pagans even as wedding rings, names of days, months, some Christian names in the Bible like Apollos and Jason also came from pagans. Why does the WTS call compromises holidays that attacked and replaced paganisms especially since Colossians 2:16 says let none judge you about a holiday or Sabbaths? WTS calls a cross a repugnant murder weapon but Paul said boast in it as a symbol of resurrection over death. (Ga 6:14, 1Cor 1:17-18) They say it was a stake but human remains and inscriptions show archaeologists the stauros was a cross not stake, Dr F Zugibe's research shows suffocation would be in minutes if on a stake but in hours if on outstretched cross per Lu 23:44 and Mat 27:45-6, and the word stauros can mean not just stake but cross.
Although almost only the United Pentecostals teach that Jesus is God Almighty (Jehovah) Himself, WTS says the Trinity is believing Father, Son, Spirit are one "identical" person and falsely say most all Protestant and Catholic churches teach that, even though the fact is that most all other Protestant and Catholic groups accept the trinity idea as being three totally different entities or persons forming one "Godship" (Ro 1:20), Son and Spirit sharing inherited age, power, knowledge from God just as an acorn may be only one day old but also have its genes inheriting its ancestral oak tree's age, capacity and information!
Members are told report on each other although the Bible condemns busy-bodying. Nor are regular JWs allowed to read Judicial Committee "sin files" on themselves, many not knowing they exist often with misinformation and kept at Brooklyn's Bethel headquarters even if destroyed locally after seven years. Page 232 in the Insight book shows a picture of the Pay Attention To Yourselves And All The Flock book that elders have but do not allow non-elders to read. Page 302 in the Daniel book and pages 88 and 651 in the Proclaimers book show photos of the Knights Templar swords and the cross-with-crown-and-wreath used by Masons who sometimes use "Theocratic Warfare" tactics to change members' personalities and fight real/imagined opposers ((AID Book, Insight book under "Lies"; Watchtower June 1, 1960, p 352) on early WTS literature. Not surprisingly with the pedophile and other scandals, many good JWs have also complained of visual and electronic spying and harassment, including physically! Some old WT books also have the winged sun god Ra on front covers - never a Christian symbol.
Many Jehovah's Witnesses staying JWs are cutting time and money given the WTS which is declared "apostate" by silentlambs.org for endangering children, the secret U.N. liason etc. Many exJWs meet for fun (http://exjw.meetup.com/), get a newsletter from a fellowship united by love which is greater than forced same beliefs (Col 3:14, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jahchristian/), join a church etc. Beware that in the wake of the pedophile scandals, failed end-time prophecies etc, most former JWs posting at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36020&site=3 believe fanatics in the WTS could possibly do something of an "Armageddon" style mentality. This was written out of love for JW families and friends and the public's kids - yours too! Please help silentlambs.org (1 877-WT-ABUSE) battle for the kids (and adults) by making and distributing more copies of this today!
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WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???
by minimus ini've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.
do you believe this?
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nancee park
It's good that we all clearly see this but varies from saddening to frightening that the regular Jehovah's Witness is still so unaware or misinformed about all this stuff. A lot of times pedophile-hiding elders and their cronies even use "Theocratic Warfare" rough tactics upon innocent rank-and-file members hoping to intimidate and shut them up, what those elders and cronies though would call something like "refining them." Mmm.
So, the following was revised and a link to this same discussion string was added to help set that right. Please mail copies to JWs you have known so that they too may become aware and be able to better watch out for themselves and their families:
DEAR JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND PUBLIC: There are many nice Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs) but the top Governing Body of the Watchtower Society (WTS) leaders, and most local WTS elders cover up child molestation, let JW pedophiles go door-to-door, get at victims at get-togethers or Bible Studies,(http://www.silentlambs.org or toll-free 1 877-WT-ABUSE), don't tell rank-and-file about being a Non-Governmental Organization in the UN 1991-2001 though preaching against the U.N., etc. This shows a handcuffed UK pedophile elder:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_2123000/2123546.stm
And WTS leaks state that over 23,000 JW pedophiles are on file at WTS Bethel headquarters in Brooklyn, New York (USA), most unrevealed to police despite Romans 13:1. That at least one pedophile was on the Governing Body of the WTS in the 1980s if not now also is documented: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5466&site=3 Convicted Ministerial Servant/Elder pedophiles include Gregory Blackstone at Hollis, New Hampshire; Larry Baker at Augusta, Maine; Tim Gardner at Richmond, Missouri; Manual Beliz at Othello, WA; others in France, Norway, Australia etcWTS Awake and Watchtower magazines and elders say God opposes the UN but, until exposed, in 1991-2001 the WTS was secretly a formal UN associate not just to use the UN's library as proved if you read the Nov 22, 1998 Awake magazine and use Search at the top at jehovahs-witness.org with "UN" or "U.N." Besides, the UN does not even require a group to become an official associate group to get a card to use its library! After this was on the internet the official U.N. ties were cut but not all unofficial ties: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=34436&site=3
Christ said families would be split by those doing right and those doing wrong but WTS has formal Judicial Committees destroying families via numerous formal renderings of disfellowshipment (severe shunning). 1 Cor 6:1 only says judge "trivial" things as in business, James 2:4-13 calls judging harmful, and Paul says the "majority" (2 Cor 2:6) followed his advice to shun a wrongdoer, meaning a Minority chose not to and yet he nowhere condemns them.
Acts 15:20 says abstain from blood but 1 Sam 14:32-5 says Saul's army ate unBLED meat to not starve and no verses show God not forgiving them. Christ says God also forgave David's eating temple holy bread and that God wants Mercy Not Sacrifice. (Mt 12) The May 22, 1994 Awake tells of 26 JW kids who died without transfusions, and by common sense in massive bleeding as in car wrecks blood expanders won't save lives http://www.ajwrb.org. About 3 JWs die daily earthwide from the unscriptural policy! (Blood On The Altar by David Reed) Yet most normal identical twins transfuse whole blood to each other through a shared placenta and childrens' whole blood is sometimes found in mothers years after birth.
WTS says Christ was likely born about Oct 2, so why ignore counting back 9 months for normal conception or genetic-level birth means he was born in late December? Why insist Christmas is from the pagan Saturnalia when John 10:22-3 says Christ also celebrated the Festival of Dedication or Lights, i.e. Hannukah, which first began Dec 25 but has varied since because lunar-based? Job 1:3, 3:1-3 show Job's kids celebrated birthdays if you read all 3 verses to see day of birth is meant. At Luke 2 angels themselves celebrated Christ's birth. Santa is from Saint Nicholas, an actual red-robed Christian gift-giving elder of the Middle Ages, not a wizard or pagan god. The word Easter may as easily be from the Anglo-Saxon word eastern (Christianity came from East of England) as from the goddess Eastre, the eggs as likely from the Jewish passover egg as from paganry, common sense saying early Christians more likely using eggs and rabbits to symbolize the hope for new life by resurrection than as vesiges of pagan fertility or sex rites!
Halloween came from All Hallows (Holy Ones/Saints) Evening when parents had children dress as saints to encourage them to be good, the normally harmless pranks coming from Ireland where maybe or maybe not taken from pagans even as wedding rings, names of days, months, some Christian names in the Bible like Apollos and Jason also came from pagans. Why does the WTS call compromises holidays that attacked and replaced paganisms especially since Colossians 2:16 says let none judge you about a holiday or Sabbaths? WTS calls a cross a repugnant murder weapon but Paul said boast in it as a symbol of resurrection over death. (Ga 6:14, 1Cor 1:17-18) They say it was a stake but human remains and inscriptions show archaeologists the stauros was a cross not stake, Dr F Zugibe's research shows suffocation would be in minutes if on a stake but in hours if on outstretched cross per Lu 23:44 and Mat 27:45-6, and the word stauros can mean not just stake but cross.
Although almost only the United Pentecostals teach that Jesus is God Almighty (Jehovah) Himself, WTS says the Trinity is believing Father, Son, Spirit are one "identical" person and falsely say most all Protestant and Catholic churches teach that, even though the fact is that most all other Protestant and Catholic groups accept the trinity idea as being three totally different entities or persons forming one "Godship" (Ro 1:20), Son and Spirit sharing inherited age, power, knowledge from God just as an acorn may be only one day old but also have its genes inheriting its ancestral oak tree's age, capacity and information!
Members are told report on each other although the Bible condemns busy-bodying. Nor are regular JWs allowed to read Judicial Committee "sin files" on themselves, many not knowing they exist often with misinformation and kept at Brooklyn's Bethel headquarters even if destroyed locally after seven years. Page 232 in the Insight book shows a picture of the Pay Attention To Yourselves And All The Flock book that elders have but do not allow non-elders to read. Page 302 in the Daniel book and pages 88 and 651 in the Proclaimers book show photos of the Knights Templar swords and the cross-with-crown-and-wreath used by Masons who sometimes use "Theocratic Warfare" tactics to change members' personalities and fight real/imagined opposers ((AID Book, Insight book under "Lies"; Watchtower June 1, 1960, p 352) on early WTS literature. Not surprisingly with the pedophile and other scandals, many good JWs have also complained of visual and electronic spying and harassment, including physically! Some old WT books also have the winged sun god Ra on front covers - never a Christian symbol.
Many Jehovah's Witnesses staying JWs are cutting time and money given the WTS which is declared "apostate" by silentlambs.org for endangering children, the secret U.N. liason etc. Many exJWs meet for fun (http://exjw.meetup.com/), get a newsletter from a fellowship united by love which is greater than forced same beliefs (Col 3:14, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jahchristian/), join a church etc. Beware that in the wake of the pedophile scandals, failed end-time prophecies etc, most former JWs posting at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36020&site=3 believe fanatics are in an "Armageddon" seige mentality. This was written out of love for JW families and friends and the public's kids - you too! Please help silentlambs.org (1 877-WT-ABUSE) battle for the kids (and adults) by making and distributing more copies of this today!
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WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???
by minimus ini've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.
do you believe this?
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nancee park
I also vote that YES there are some capable of it, and in a string farther up I tell reasons to believe things have already happened indicating the full, dangerous potential.
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Notice to all who attend press conferences at KHs
by Littlebit inthis message is from bill bowen to all the good folks who will be at kingdom halls tomorrow (thursday) morning for press conferences: .
bill asked that in each city, someone please take pictures for silentlambs scrapbook and also to be posted on this site.. thank you,.
the middlelady, littlebit.
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nancee park
Sounds good. Keep at it! You do not see them except in your mind's eye, but this is helping thousands and thousands of children, even hundreds of thousands! You are our heroes!
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What Really Surprises Me Is............
by Sentinel in.............that jehovah's witness aren't required to wear uniforms, adults and children.
i mean, it would certainly settle the issue of who's in and who's out, because whoever wasn't attending meetings couldn't pick up their next clean uniform.
also, they would be totally visible out in public and you would always be "safe", if you associated or spoke to one who was properly uniformed.
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nancee park
But so much else is required:
DEAR JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND PUBLIC: There are many nice Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs) but did you know the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society (WTS) over them, and the WTS-appointed local WTS elders cover up child molestation and let JW pedophiles go door-to-door as proved at http://www.silentlambs.org or phone toll-free 1 877-WT-ABUSE.
And this shows a UK elder handcuffed for prison because a pedophile: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_2123000/2123546.stm
WTS leaks state that over 23,000 JW pedophiles are on file at WTS Bethel
headquarters in Brooklyn, New York (USA), most unrevealed to police despite
Romans 13:1. That at least one pedophile was on the Governing Body of the WTS
in the 1980s if not now also is documented:http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5466&site=3 Convicted
Ministerial Servant/Elder pedophiles include Gregory Blackstone at Hollis, New
Hampshire; Larry Baker at Augusta, Maine; Tim Gardner at Richmond, Missouri;
Manual Beliz at Othello, WA; others in the UK, France, Norway, Australia etcWTS Awake and Watchtower magazines and elders say God opposes the UN but, until
exposed, in 1991-2001 the WTS was secretly a formal U.N. associate not just to
use the U.N.'s library as proved if you read the Nov 22, 1998 Awake magazine
and use Search at the top at jehovahs-witness.org with "UN" or "U.N." Besides,
the U.N. does not even require a group to become an official associate group in
order to get a card to use its library! After this was publicized on the
internet the official U.N. ties were cut but not all unofficial ties: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=34436&site=3Christ said families would be split by those doing right and those doing wrong
but WTS has formal Judicial Committees destroying families via numerous formal
renderings of disfellowshipment (severe shunning). 1 Cor 6:1 only says judge
"trivial" things as in business, James 2:4-13 calls judging harmful, and Paul
says the "majority" (2 Cor 2:6) followed his advice to shun a wrongdoer,
meaning a Minority chose not to and yet he nowhere condemns them.Acts 15:20 says abstain from blood but 1 Sam 14:32-5 says Saul's army ate
unBLED meat to not starve and no verses show God not forgiving them. Christ
says God also forgave David's eating temple holy bread and that God wants Mercy
Not Sacrifice. (Mt 12) The May 22, 1994 Awake tells of 26 JW kids who died
without transfusions, and by common sense in massive bleeding as in car wrecks
blood expanders won't save lives http://www.ajwrb.org. About 3 JWs die daily
earthwide from the unscriptural policy! (Blood On The Altar by David Reed) Yet
most normal identical twins transfuse whole blood to each other through a
shared placenta and childrens' whole blood is sometimes found in mothers years
after birth.WTS says Christ was likely born about Oct 2, so why ignore counting back 9
months for normal conception or genetic-level birth means he was born in late
December? Why insist Christmas is from the pagan Saturnalia when John 10:22-3
says Christ also celebrated the Festival of Dedication or Lights, i.e.
Hannukah, which first began Dec 25 but has varied since because lunar-based?
Job 1:3, 3:1-3 show Job's kids celebrated birthdays if you read all 3 verses to
see day of birth is meant. At Luke 2 angels themselves celebrated Christ's
birth. Santa is from Saint Nicholas, an actual red-robed Christian gift-giving
elder of the Middle Ages, not a wizard or pagan god. The word Easter may as
easily be from the Anglo-Saxon word eastern (Christianity came from East of
England) as from the goddess Eastre, the eggs as likely from the Jewish
passover egg as from paganry, common sense saying early Christians more likely
using eggs and rabbits to symbolize the hope for new life by resurrection than
as vesiges of pagan fertility or sex rites!Halloween came from All Hallows (Holy Ones/Saints) Evening when parents had
children dress as saints to encourage them to be good, the normally harmless
pranks coming from Ireland where maybe or maybe not taken from pagans even as
wedding rings, names of days, months, some Christian names in the Bible like
Apollos and Jason also came from pagans. Why does the WTS call compromises
holidays that attacked and replaced paganisms especially since Colossians 2:16
says let none judge you about a holiday or Sabbaths? WTS calls a cross a
repugnant murder weapon but Paul said boast in it as a symbol of resurrection
over death. (Ga 6:14, 1Cor 1:17-18) They say it was a stake but human remains
and inscriptions show archaeologists the stauros was a cross not stake, Dr F
Zugibe's research shows suffocation would be in minutes if on a stake but in
hours if on outstretched cross per Lu 23:44 and Mat 27:45-6, and the word
stauros can mean not just stake but cross.Although almost only the United Pentecostals teach that Jesus is God Almighty
(Jehovah) Himself, WTS says the Trinity is believing Father, Son, Spirit are
one "identical" person and falsely say most all Protestant and Catholic
churches teach that, even though the fact is that most all other Protestant and
Catholic groups accept the trinity idea as being three totally different
entities or persons forming one "Godship" (Ro 1:20), Son and Spirit sharing
inherited age, power, knowledge from God just as an acorn may be only one day
old but also have its genes inheriting its ancestral oak tree's age, capacity
amd information!Members are told report on each other although the Bible condemns busy-bodying.
Nor are regular JWs allowed to read Judicial Committee "sin files" on
themselves, many not knowing they exist often with misinformation and kept at
Brooklyn's Bethel headquarters even if destroyed locally after seven years.
Page 232 in the Insight book shows a picture of the Pay Attention To Yourselves
And All The Flock book that elders have but do not allow non-elders to read.
Page 302 in the Daniel book and pages 88 and 651 in the Proclaimers book show
photos of the Knights Templar swords and the cross-with-crown-and-wreath used
by Masons who sometimes use "Theocratic Warfare" tactics to change members'
personalities on early WTS literature. Not surprisingly with the pedophile and
other scandals, many good JWs have also complained of visual and electronic
spying and harassment, including physically! Some old WT books also have the
winged sun god Ra on front covers - never a Christian symbol.Many Jehovah's Witnesses staying JWs are cutting time and money given the WTS
which is declared "apostate" by silentlambs.org for endangering children, the
secret U.N. liason etc. Many exJWs meet for fun (http://exjw.meetup.com/), get
a newsletter from a fellowship united by love which is greater than forced same
beliefs (Col 3:14, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jahchristian/), join a church
etc. This was written out of love for our JW families and friends as well as
the public's - yours too! Please help out silentlambs.org (1 877-WT-ABUSE) in
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<groan!> They've Learned a Lot from JWs!
by Stephanus ini just went to my old church's website and found out what they're up to.. when i was there, the midweek home bible studies were called cottage meetings, then home groups.
you studied pretty well what the study leader had on his (or her) mind at the time.
the church growth movement of the late 80s and 90s has changed all that.
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nancee park
God did give laws but they have been miscarried out which is what Christ pointed out. Christ also pointed out that showing love for God by being neighborly to others is a principle greater than all the laws God gave gave Moses.
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Has there been a policy change?
by Mulan inmy mother told us last night that her po told her we are disassociated.
no announcement was made.
she is upset, and i told her i would call him.. at first she didn't want me to do that, but later changed her mind.. so, i left a message on his answering machine.he will call me.........he always returns my calls.
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nancee park
They do not have to "officially" shun/disfellowship to in fact do so. That's what's happening. This way they dodge some of the bad press this stuff by them causes -- or so they have hoped. The process is not called "disfellowshipping" you but "expelling" you.
If you read non-Watchtower literature against them, have oral sex with your spouse, etc, you are subject to being expelled from "Jehovah's Kingdom" as they deem themselves, or what we all now know is really the "pedophile's paradise."
The old boys are doing their best to cause themselves the most trouble. What knuckleheads! What boneheads! Jarasc, you are the jerkiest.
Hey, Mulan, like your new photo!